Wednesday, 6 July 2011

Atheists must be exposed?

Atheism unveiled « Conservative Christian Commentary

So apparently, according to this blogger, the atheists that are becoming more, and more vocal should be exposed? Well, the first problem with this is the fact that vocal atheists are already exposing themselves. They have to if they are going to be vocal.

(I have since done some digging, and this guy has run for office! Seriously? A man with views like this should be nowhere near office!
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This E. Allen Griffith's seems, apparently, to think that atheists will say whatever they will to enforce, or empower their own views. He clarifies this by quoting scripture. Irony is seemingly lost on this individual. The ridiculous, and intensely arrogant argument he puts forward is quite simple.

"Every atheist, regardless of his arguments, knows there is a true and living God. I submit his rationalizing is as much an effort to relieve his own mind about the truth of God’s existence, as it is to try to convince others"

Is this man really attempting to put across a point about atheism here, or does his rather simplistic view of the world simply make him look incredibly closed minded? I would suggest that the atheist has no belief in God, contrary to Griffith's assertion. A simple look at a dictionary would sort that little issue out.

A-Theist which basically means without God... You cannot acknowledge someone as an atheist, and then tell them they actually believe in a God. It is logically weak, and comes across, as I said, as arrogant. He genuinely believes his own religious beliefs are in actual fact the only way anyone can think, and if they don't, then it must be a tangent version of what his beliefs are. It's quite worrying. he continues with more bible scripture, (why do they think that bible scripture means anything to anyone other than those that believe?).

As to this false claim he makes regarding atheists..

"The reader can be sure that every atheist once believed in God. In reality, each atheist still believes in God, but claims unbelief outwardly"

At no point in my life have I ever believed in a God. It was always kept in the same drawer as fairies, and hobgoblins. For you to make such a spurious claim belittles not only my own thoughts on the world, but that of every atheist out there who was not a God Botherer at any point. You come across as arrogant, weak, and so desperate to weight your own side, and beliefs, that you seem to think we all thought the same, and simply wandered from the path. Sorry, but that is frankly bullshit. Of course you KNOW I am lying here, because you are some sort of psychic, (well, you may as well have other irrational notions apart from your religious beliefs), and there has been a lot in my life that I consider to be 'bad' in some way, but not one iota of it has been blamed on any imaginary friend.

You are right about one thing;

"Some think God is unfair. Sin and suffering are unfair. The reality of a place called Hell is unfair"

I think anyone who has read the bible, and thinks about the notion that is God, can see that he is unjust, and indiscriminate. Suffering is aplenty, and so on, and so forth. I'm sure you have heard the argument before. However, being the psychic that I am, you will no doubt respond with;

"God moves in mysterious ways, brah!", or some such nonsensical kop out answer, that doesn;t go any way near to answering why things are as they are on earth. No doubt you'll prattle on about sin, or even, if I'm really lucky, spout some verse at me. However, none of this will answer a single thing about the original question in hand, and how YOUR god, that you worship, allows what he does on HIS creation.

Your blog post basically boils down to one thing... You are a fundamentalist Christian, and whatever anyone else thinks, it's because they are wrong, and you are right, and damn them if they think they can argue about it using logic and reason. You have your bible at hand with which to beat them with, for it is a heavy book, and ideal for hand to hand combat.

Atheism is NOT the rejection of God. It is the simple lack of anything convincing about it. How can I reject something I don't believe in. I simply think it is baloney. There is no rejection in the same way that you are not rejecting Vishnu, or Zeus... It just isn't in your make up to believe in it.


Tuesday, 5 July 2011

Shmuley talking crap again...

Godlessness has doomed Britain - JPost - Opinion - Columnists


For some reason, everything Shmuley seems to say just comes across as "shout, mumble, shake fist, aargh"... This all stems from the debate he took part in with the magnificent Christopher Hitchens many moons ago. Looking at what he writes, and says, ever since I first came to know him just makes him seem even more ludicrous as time progresses, and this is another example...

His essential point is that the rise in American Power is correlated with their religious fervor, and the fall of the British Empire is due to the fall in the religious... A spurious conclusion at the very least. he then goes on to describe Britain as a country of hooligans, the degradation of women, and out of wedlock birthrates. Really, Shmuley? Is this the best you can come up with? How about the other statistics. Child mortality rates, life expectancy, social care, and so on. Are these not worthy, or do you simply see what YOU see as bad points as down to a nations lack of religiosity?

He couldn't have put his other point any better, however. The difference in the US and the UK when it comes to religion, and it's organisation. The UK DOES have a state religion, and yet religious followers are dropping. Why is this, Shmuley? You don't actually offer any explanation for it at all.

You say that Churches, especially evangelical ones, are led by their commercialism. That is indeed correct, and yet you seem to see this as some sort of plus point. I don't get that at all. IS religion just a business to you? Does commercial success equate to holiness, or spirituality? Does the more money one make mean that church is any more, or less spiritual than another?

Basically, Shmuley, you seem to make absolutely no point whatsoever in your article. You don't mention the proportion of religious in prisons, you don't mention the level of violent crime, and gun deaths in the US. Apparently people dying is of no concern to you, despite how religious the country may be. You also fail to mention the other religious countries in the world... The Sudan, Nigeria, Iran, Iraq, and so on, and so forth.

Poor point, poorly made...

And the debate I mention... Boteach vs Hitchens...

Monday, 4 July 2011

Sunday, 3 July 2011

The God of the Old Testament...

Great article on RDF about Dawkins famous phrase, "The God of the Old Testament..."

Brilliant read.


The God of the Old Testament ... - Ignorant Amos - www.richarddawkins.net - RichardDawkins.net

Tony Blair... Naive? Out of touch?

Is Tony Blair the most naive man on the planet, these days, when it comes to religion. he seems to have an opinion borne out of fluffiness, and nicety, and yet he seems to be able to utterly disregard the vast downsides that religions seem to bring. He wants equality for all minorities, (in this vein talking about religion), and yet the very tenet of these religions is that THEY are the one true religion, and all others are either inferior, false, and the believer, or non-believers of the others will all go to hell, and burn for eternity. You CANNOT have equality under those circumstances.

Like the Hitchens Blair debate, he is simply showing himself to be utterly simplistic in his view, and out of his depth.


"A ruling class that is "religiously illiterate" cannot lead in the 21st century" - Vatican Insider

Friday, 1 July 2011

He's on a mission from god | thetelegraph.com.au

Well, God certainly moves in mystewrious ways. In this instance, pissed out of his skull, and crashing cars, at least his 'messenger on earth' was anyway. The latest in a long line of religious excuses to get away with something. We have Carlos who throws children from cars, who said God told him too, and we have the foreign Islamic student who sexually assaulted people, and got away with it because he was culturally excluded and lonely because of his religion.


He's on a mission from god | thetelegraph.com.au